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In this podcast, Matthew Goodman, gives us a tour de force of Trump policy in Asia and the ‘big question’ what will be the consequences for the liberal international order of a Trump administration. Matthew is currently the William E Simon Chair in Political Economy and the Senior Adviser for Economics at CSIS, the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. Matthew has served in both the private sector at Goldman Sachs and Albright Stonebridge Group and has also held a number of significant roles in the public sector including early in his career as an international economist at the U.S. Treasury Department and at the Tokyo Embassy. Subsequently, he was director of international economics on the National Security Council staff responsible for the G20 and, the then G8, and then former White House Coordinator for the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) and the East Asia Summit (EAS). Matthew and I explore the consequences of Trump’s policy actions especially in Asia focusing on Trump’s meetings with key leaders in Japan, Korea and China and at the multilateral meetings, APEC and ASEAN. Listen to Matthew’s views of the ‘America First’ policy in Asia.